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Shotgun Pellets from Duck Hunters Fall on School Bus in White Lake

Police and school officials are investigating the incident that happened at a bus stop Thursday morning.

No children were injured this week when shotgun pellets from nearby duck hunters fell on a school bus in White Lake, according to school officials and police.

The incident occurred Thursday morning at Cumberland and Valley Rise, which is a bus stop for Brooks Elementary School. 

"The students were in the bus at the time," said Kimberly Root, director of communications and community relations for Huron Valley Schools. "There were no injuries or damage to the bus. We informed the White Lake Police and they are investigating."

According to Root, police located and spoke with the hunters. School officials also reported the incident to the Department of Natural Resources and let the parents at the bus stop know what happened.

"The White Lake Police indicated that the situation did not pose a risk to students, parents or staff," Root said in an email statement.

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jane stevenson October 19, 2012 at 05:33 PM
not suprised at all. I spent 25 years in a house on McKeachie and spray from the hunters was very common and ignored by DNR.
Laura Vogel October 19, 2012 at 07:25 PM
It didn't pose a risk?! How? Because the kids just so happened to already be inside the bus? If that was the reasoning for saying it didn't pose a risk, um, huulllooo, so what if it happened ninety seconds sooner? Or is the "didn't pose a risk" determination because having shotgun pellets fall on you is never a risk in the first place? I have to believe that being in the fall-out path of ammunition from a shotgun is indeed a risk, hence why all the shooting clubs have wide buffer boundaries between their target ranges (where people shoot e.g. sport clays with shotguns) and where people are. If someone was la de dah walking around behind the target area for Island Lake Rec Area's sporting clay range, the range master would shut down the course until the person was cleared. How are children waiting for a school bus any less at risk than someone accidentally walking through the target range?
melanie October 20, 2012 at 02:22 PM
I live near this bus stop and have heard gun shots start ringing out beginning at 6 am as kids are getting ready for school and their walk to meet the bus. The hunters at times are so close you can see them in them in the near distance. Trying to kayak on Grass Lake near the homes is also dangerous as my daughter and her friend rounded a corner of her friends property to find a hunter aiming a gun their direction while only a mere few feet from them. These hunters are dangerously close to residents and our children. I'm with Laura in asking how the children were not at risk when something like this is such a strong warning of what could happen next time.
Greg Burks October 22, 2012 at 12:38 PM
The law in regards to discharging a firearm when hunting has been the same for many years. Safety Zones Around Buildings Safety zones are all areas within 150 yards (450 feet) of an occupied building, house, cabin, or any barn or other building used in a farm operation. No person, including archery and crossbow hunters, may hunt or discharge a firearm, crossbow or bow in a safety zone, or shoot at any wild animal or wild bird within a safety zone, without the written permission of the owner or occupant of the property. The safety zone applies to hunting only. It does not apply to indoor or outdoor shooting ranges, target shooting, law enforcement activities or the discharge of firearms, crossbows or bows for any non-hunting purpose. http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-153-10366_37141_37706-31581--,00.html I'd like to hear what the results the schools inquirey to the DNR were.......
Lori October 22, 2012 at 03:17 PM
The police in White Lake have made it clear in the past, on this website, that they are unconcerned about hunters abiding by the 150 yards requirement. The chief of police answered a question I posed two years ago about it, saying in short that residents should share the lake, and that even though the decoys completely blocked a channel between two parts of our lake, if my boat hit and damaged a decoy I would be liable. Not to sound extreme, but it is obvious that hunters are more important to the police than tax paying residents and children around these parts.
Laura Vogel October 22, 2012 at 05:12 PM
the school should not have to "inquire" the DNR. Our local police (that we pay rather handsomely to fund, I might add) should have taken the initiative to enforce this in the first place. Shoving the problem into the hands of dear faceless bureaucrat in Lansing begs the issue of what exactly is it that our local police are enforcing if they aren't protecting and serving us.
Nancy Homeister October 24, 2012 at 03:32 AM
I have to wonder - if pellets are falling well into a subdivision, how could these hunters be abiding by the 150 yard limit? Frankly, I think that we need to revisit these guidelines, given how much our area has been built up since they were first developed. How do we start a petition to have that discussion? Laura and Lori - I sympathize with your positions, BUT - first, our police are NOT handsomely paid. Have you seen a map of White Lake? Do you realize how large of an area our reduced force has to patrol? Taxes have gone down, budgets have gone down, put area and population has not. Thank God we have officers that respond when you call. Try getting a cop after being robbed in Detroit... and Lori - if they aren't breaking the law, and the laws are decided by the folks WE elect, what do you want them to do?? White Lake residents have to decide - do we put up with hunters that (legally) shoot weapons a stone's throw from family homes, and idiots who blow off fireworks whenever they want? If not, let's do something about it.
Laura Vogel October 24, 2012 at 02:18 PM
I agree, Nancy, it's a head-scratcher that a bus stop in the middle of a subdivision is somehow within an approved hunting area. Things that make you go "hmmm..." By the way, I never said that our individual police officers are handsomely paid. I said that we as taxpayers are paying a handsome price for local police service. Please see the updated story at http://whitelake.patch.com/articles/hunters-issued-warning-following-bus-incident As to what "we" do, I agree that our ELECTED (and those appointed by our elected) officials should take action rather than simply shrug their collective shoulders and pooh pooh our concerns. As I commented over in the updated article, it would appear that the ordinance is ineffective to actually do what it purports to be designed to do, and thus the ordinance should be revised to provide better definition of boundaries and approved and unapproved areas. It would seem obvious to the casual observer that an ordinance that defines hunting areas using e.g. metes-and-bounds is doomed to be out-of-date the week after it's written, given the fact that White Lake remains an area where residential building continues to take place in formerly forested and farmed sectors.
Rickg7048@mac.com November 01, 2012 at 10:28 AM
I've had pellets from the Duck hunters hit my house, land in my yard when my kids were playing outside. They sit out there shooting like it's WWIII at the crack of dawn on the weekends. You can't even say boo to them because it's "Hunter Harassment" and you can actually go to jail for it, but if there shot hits your house or your child that's perfectly fine because it's not going to hurt anyone. It's just a harmless shotgun!

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